Permalink in target space
sorry, it's me again with the issue page title and permalink.
We use Scroll versions 3.7.1 and Confluence 5.10.8. We have activated duplicate page titles. So, I create two pages with the same title and give them different permalinks. And I do not use the suggested permalinks like "page title+1" but create own permalinks with descriptive names. But in the target space the permalinks are reset to "page title+1", "page title+2" etc. Why is that?
A reason for the descriptive names is for example the suggestion list within the search. Here the user sees the permalink and not the page title. And I do not want the user to see "page title+1", "page title+2".
Thanks for reaching out.
I assume the links to "Stammdaten 1", 7, 3, etc. all link to your authoring space? Besides that, is it true, that you've initially created those pages with the permalink (including the +1, +7, etc.), but have changed the permalink afterwards?
In this case, the master page will have the page title "stammdaten 1", and the versioned page will have the changed pagetitle (e.g. "stammdaten descriptive").
Which publishing approach are you taking? Are you publishing within the same space, or to a new / existing space?
To solve this and don't have the +1 page titles, you can publish within the same space (the page titles will then be overwritten with the page titles in the version you publish).
Does that help? Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
I'll be happy to help.
if you would like Scroll Page titles to be published instead of the permalinks, simply change the Advanced plugin settings in the source space: https://help.k15t.com/scroll-versions/3.5/advanced-plugin-settings-121939546.html (see versions.publish.global.keep.permalink.as.pagetitle key).
Please let me know if this helps.
thank you for your answers. Okay, here is some more information.
@Nils, the link suggestions all link to the target space. We publish to new/existing spaces. An we create the permalinks initially with a descriptive name and not afterwards (besides some exceptions).
Sorry, but publishing to the same space is no alternative for our requirements.
@Roman, yes i have consulted the page before. In both alternatives (space/global) it says "Scroll Translations is not activated", but we have activated it. But okay, I have tested now all options: always the same result (as desribed). Besides that it is not our basic aim to use the permalink as the page title.
With the displayed page title everything is okay. Normally the user doesn't see the permalink (except in the URL). Scroll Versions overrides the confluence page titles in the page tree for example, but not in the suggestion list or in the result list of searches. Okay, there seems to be a ticket (https://jira.k15t.com/browse/VSN-2327), but if you do not want to override everything, my request is to have a chance to display a sensible name there and not numbered page titles.
If I follow the link of all these pages the displayed title is only "Stammdaten". That is correct. But for example the permalink of the page "Stammdaten 8" is "Stammdaten Personalverwaltung" in the master space, and so is the name of the master page there as well. So why is "Stammdaten Personalverwaltung" not permalink in the target space, which is shown in the search result.
What can we do to achieve this? Thank You.
Do I understand correctly that you see Scroll Page Titles in search results instead of permalinks? This should actually be the other way around as Confluence search only "sees" permalinks. We have an existing improvement for that: https://k15t.jira.com/browse/VSN-3240.
I could investigate this further if you could send me the page export of the "Stammdaten Personalverwaltung" page from the source space to email@example.com. To export the content of a single Confluence page, please follow these instructions: https://help.k15t.com/creating-a-xml-export-of-a-single-page-111903666.html.
as I have tested know again for hours I probably have found the solution, but i am really confused. To get the result I wanted, I leave the advanced plugin settings on default and simply use "keep permalinks" when publishing to a new or existing space. It is confusing because I have thought this only has an impact if you want to keep the permalink of the original language. Yes, we have activated ST and publish all languages. But as we have translated only a few pages by now, there is only the original language (or page). So why the system makes up new permalinks (+1, +2 etc.) for the target space, if I deactivate "keep permalinks" and publish german (original language).
1. original language: German;
keep permalinks: true;
publish all languages
-> takes the original permalink
2. original language: German;
keep permalinks: false;
-> takes the English page title as permalink
3. original language: German;
keep permalinks: false;
-> makes up new permalinks
Why doesn't take the original permalink in this case too?
Sorry, at the moment the xml export of a single page runs with error.
I couldn't reproduce scenario 3. For me, the german page title was taken as the permalink in the existing space. Are you publishing to a new space or to an existing one?
It would be great to have space exports of both the source and the target space to investigate further. Simply send them to firstname.lastname@example.org. If the space export throws an error, I would recommend contacting Atlassian Support.
We also have an improvement for the description of the "Keep permalinks" option: https://k15t.jira.com/browse/VSN-2831.
okay, but with duplicate page titles the system cannot simply take the German page title as the permalink if it is the same. And then it numbers the pages if you don't chosse "keep permalinks". That happens by publishing to new or existing spaces.
Now I know how to handle the problem, but if you want to investigate I can send the testspaces to the address. Look at the duplicate pages "Programm A" (Permalinks: "Programm A WSS" and "Programm A VB")
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